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Post by ndrqu on May 17, 2015 0:47:41 GMT
Everyone has been making very hard puzzles lately. So, after some very easy ones from me, here is an hard one from me too. I warn you: this is VERY out of the box, just want to try something strange. I know some of you will like it  And no, I didn't smash my head on the keyboard for the title The puzzle starts below this line (For real now, I swear!):
The name of the location is the title, well, if you read it right. And don't lose time searching for the golf course, the key is the rail fence.  |
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I have a question. Is the name of the place... ...among these?  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Post by johnluke on May 17, 2015 7:59:51 GMT
Looks like a certain young lady from the old F&G is back... She helped us with so many puzzles back in the day. But not all websites give the same results.   |
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Post by ndrqu on May 17, 2015 9:36:36 GMT
Very nice job guys! johnluke I know nothing about an old puzzle with the same trick, it was a fresh idea from me. Actually I had the idea for a while but took a lot to find a perfect place to construct the puzzle. And the websites give the same correct result except one, I checked. There's just one of them that is not working right, the others are ok |
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Post by hhgygy on May 17, 2015 12:11:34 GMT
OK, so you claim to have developed it yourself after the ancient Greeks?   BTW I don't know which websites you are talking about, I just used monospaced fonts in Word. |
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Post by ndrqu on May 17, 2015 12:46:57 GMT
OK, so you claim to have developed it yourself after the ancient Greeks? I don't think we are talking about the same thing  But I don't want to give more unwanted hints to the others, let's talk about this after the solution (obviously I didn't come up with... that, I just had the idea to use that in a puzzle, if we mean the same thing with that) |
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Post by johnluke on May 17, 2015 12:48:09 GMT
johnluke And the websites give the same correct result except one, I checked. There's just one of them that is not working right, the others are ok Of course I chose the only one that doesn't work! Story of my life! |
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Post by johnluke on May 17, 2015 12:54:49 GMT
Very nice job guys! johnluke I know nothing about an old puzzle with the same trick, it was a fresh idea from me. Actually there was a whole series of puzzles that had anagrams as clues, and at the start we didn't know they were anagrams (because the devilish puzzle posters didn't say they were anagrams and the words used had meanings, not like your gibberish word that screams "anagram" ). After a while it sort of became a joke and we started talking about "Anna Gram", and later, just "Anna", as the lady who knew all the secrets. But Anna became so overused that she went out of fashion after a while, and no one used anagrams anymore, and at one point I started to miss her, so I devised this puzzle where I posted a letter that I had received from Anna. You can try it without reading the solution if you want.  |
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Post by ndrqu on May 17, 2015 13:01:52 GMT
Ohhhh I see now what you and hhgygy are talking about. You are talking about anagrams. The title is, and is not at the same time, an anagram. I mean yea, you can anagram it into the name of the place, but the way it is written on the title is not just a random anagram, it's that something else |
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Post by johnluke on May 17, 2015 13:03:38 GMT
Ohhhh I see now what you and hhgygy are talking about. You are talking about anagrams. The title is, and is not at the same time, an anagram. I mean yea, you can anagram it into the name of the place, but the way it is written on the title is not just a random anagram, it's that something else Ok but... jumbled letters = anagram. |
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Post by ndrqu on May 17, 2015 13:10:54 GMT
Let's see it this way. What I have done to the name of the place, is a subset of an angram.
It's like, all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. The squares are subsets of the rectangles. See my point?
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Post by johnluke on May 17, 2015 13:23:05 GMT
Let's see it this way. What I have done to the name of the place, is a subset of an angram. It's like, all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. The squares are subsets of the rectangles. See my point? Whatever you say, ndrqu. |
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Post by ndrqu on May 28, 2015 12:01:20 GMT
Solution: The word "lraaotndcia" is a transposition cipher of "La Cortinada", which is a cute little village in Andorra where the picture of the puzzle was shot. What is a transposition cipher? An encryption of a text by permutation of the letters contained in it. More info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_cipherNow, this is also an anagram, but while anagramming a text returns all of the possible combinations of letters to form an existing word, the encryption and decryption is an univocal transformation. So yes, it could be solved with anagrams, but the more straight and direct way was to decrpyt the message using the "Rail fence cipher", which is the type of encryption I used here. |
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And no, I didn't smash my head on the keyboard for the title 
But I don't want to give more unwanted hints to the others, let's talk about this after the solution 