Symbol cities II – Kainua, the ancient Etruskan new town

Hi everybody,

“Of course there are a lot of (very practical) circle-cities and square or rectangle-cities but there also appear to be more intruiging symbols that inspired city builders.”, I wrote on the old Google Earth Community, when I started the collection ‘symbol cities’. But recent archeological excavations in Italy show that there is more to circular historical city planning! Near the Italian city of Bologna an exeptional excavation uncoverded the remains of “Kainua” (Etruskan for ‘new town’), dating ca. 500 BC. 

In the 2022 Arte France documenatary archeologist Elisabetta Govi (Università di Bologna) presents the remains of an ancient planned city that was meant to reflect on earth the celestial sphere with 12 deities situated evenly in a large circle drawn around a cental point. All aligned to the summer solstice (docu 1:15:59) as seen from the acropolis.

kml-file

res.cloudinary.com/drbrq1k3e/raw/upload/v1658335551/user_uploads/standard/rrzmgdhjfq9zmgcwb4td.kml

coörds: 44.3359,11.2030

sources:

Favitski, Alexis de, TV docu The Rise and Fall of the Etruscans, Arte France, 2022
www.arte.tv/en/videos/101362-000-A/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-etruscans/

Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzabotto

Payed publication: Govi, Elisabetta, editor, La città etrusca e il sacro : santuari e istituzioni politiche : atti del convegno, Bologna 21-23 gennaio 2016
www.torrossa.com/it/resources/an/4622708

When Google discontinued the database connection of the old Google Earth Community all the KLM-files of the collection were lost. I remember that a moderator suggested to bundle al the message threads in one kml file. I wish I had because in my (broken) bookmarks I can see that the oldGEC collection featured:
- the axe man of Utrecht (Utrecht, the Netherlands)
- Leo Belgicus (map)
- Felix the Cat (Lima, Peru)
- head of a horse (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)
- Kattenbroek (Amersfoort, the Netherlands)
- De groene cathedraal (Almere, the Netherlands)
- the cross of Van Brouchhoven (Leiden, the Netherlands)
- churchcroses/kerkenkruizen/kirchenkreuz : Utrecht, the Netherlands
- Touba Khatim (Islamic and Sufi)

I suppose information about these can be found on Wikipedia these days.

Best regards,
Daarbennikweer

If you have old bookmarks of lost sites, search the URLs in the Web Archive.  Good example of one of my posts, now a dead link, but available via the WayBack Machine:

web.archive.org/web/20200918104722/http://www.dayofarchaeology.com/google-earth-photo-sharing-and-archaeology-research/

Internet Archive: Wayback Machine = archive.org/web/

I poked around a bit, found this 2003 archived page:  web.archive.org/web/20030803141151/http://bbs.earthviewer.com/ubb/entrance/

Thanks for the pointer  archaeo,

bbs.earthviewer.com was before my time. But I am delighted by Waybackmachine's snapshots of bbs.keyhole.com!

Strange that untill now nobody else but you has elaborated some more on offering acces to

a) 7 captures of bbs.earthviewer.com/ubb/entrance/
between 1 Apr 2003 - 15 Feb 2006
and

b) 1,022 captures of bbs.keyhole.com/
between 2 Aug 2003 - untill . . . google discontinued the database

Of course I also have backups of my own posts but hesitate to dump them here before moderators would decide on a gracious way to repost them here. Then i would consider schecking all the links they hold (some of which must be broken by now) or even regroup some.

Untill then I hope the current KML attachment bug is fixed so I can upload my placemark of the above. And I'll be shure to visit some of your posts shortly.

regards,

Daarbennikweer

Jul 16, 2022 12:12:34 GMT daarbennikweer said:

Untill then I hope the current KML attachment bug is fixed so I can upload my placemark of the above.

Hello daarbennikweer,

You can upload KML-files via the button [Insert Image/Video] at the upper right hand edge of the frame.

Just drop the KML-file instead of a picture or video and a downloadlink will appear in the message.

Like this: res.cloudinary.com/drbrq1k3e/raw/upload/v1658314028/user_uploads/standard/otshq0irrybgkmjb3bco.kmz

Thanks Bemerkenswert! I activated Cloudinary in my profile, like the top-banner said and uploaded my KML file.

I had to log out and in again to get the new 'instert image' button top right on my message edit screen.

Best regards,

Daarbennikweer

Jul 20, 2022 16:36:27 GMT daarbennikweer said:

Hi Bemerkenswert!

On my screen Insert Image asks for an URL and the 'add attachment" top right unfortunately still reports:

"Unable to upload file Kainua, the ancient Etruskan new town.kml.

Both are not the right ones.

I talked about the button [Insert Image/Video] which is left of the [Add Attachment] button.

 

that works.

thanks Bemerkenswert,

Your quick repsonse crossed my edit of my answer before the top banner with Coudinary instructions caught my attention. Sorry for the inconvinience. You demonstrate it just like it is.

By the way: I like your website!

Best regards,

Daarbennikweer

Jul 20, 2022 17:15:51 GMT daarbennikweer said:

By the way: I like your website!

Thank you very much!!

I don't know where you live.

In case it is not far from the border, maybe you might also like some of the tour tips on my main website >