The Tunnel [3 hints added][solution]

Thiseisvmyeversionrofy"thinkingtouthofithenbox"gpuzzle.IReadscarefullyaeverythingyIisay.sTheapuzzlelstartsiafterethis!line:

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This tunnel is very easy to find. You don't have to be a monster to solve it. Everything you need is inside this thread. I wish you good luck

Apr 26, 2015 10:24:13 GMT ndrqu said:

Thiseisvmyeversionrofy"thinkingtouthofithenbox"gpuzzle.IReadscarefullyaeverythingyIisay.sTheapuzzlelstartsiafterethis!line:

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This tunnel is very easy to find. You don't have to be a monster to solve it. Everything you need is inside this thread. I wish you good luck

"Everything you need is inside this thread."  It Is  

I am not saying anything until the first hint, which will be in a few days. I hope someone will understand the puzzle before that 

Apr 26, 2015 14:16:55 GMT ndrqu said:

I am not saying anything until the first hint, which will be in a few days. I hope someone will understand the puzzle before that 

I've tried everything I could. Now I'm waiting for Walter to post the image and maybe I'll take another look. 

Great feeling when the penny dropped. A little searching and... bingo!

I must admit, that's a good one, ndrqu.

Good job johnluke ! 

Apr 26, 2015 20:07:35 GMT ET_Explorer said:

Mmmh, that picture looks incredibly similar to johnluke's one, just with slightly altered colours. And in the URL title I can read "duplicate".
Can you provide a different angle? 

Hi ndrqu

Do you really need ET to post another view?

This is all supposed to be FUN and if ET has copied JL's image, what has he gained by that? Certainly not a sense of satisfaction at having found it all by himself. I really don't think it's worth making a fuss about or drawing attention to it. 

Maybe in future, if you have concerns about cheating, you could send a message to the person concerned.

I'm posting all this in public, so that everyone will read it and be aware that it's FUN people. If some folks want to cheat, more fool them. There are no prizes, so nobody's being robbed.


I just don't want accusations flying around all over the place. So, please play nicely everybody 

Thank you 

Apr 26, 2015 20:52:48 GMT BeadieJay said:

Hi ndrqu

Do you really need ET to post another view?

This is all supposed to be FUN and if ET has copied JL's image, what has he gained by that? Certainly not a sense of satisfaction at having found it all by himself. I really don't think it's worth making a fuss about or drawing attention to it. 

Maybe in future, if you have concerns about cheating, you could send a message to the person concerned.

I'm posting all this in public, so that everyone will read it and be aware that it's FUN people. If some folks want to cheat, more fool them. There are no prizes, so nobody's being robbed.


I just don't want accusations flying around all over the place. So, please play nicely everybody 

Thank you 

I understand, it won't happen again 

Thank you so much for understanding - this kind of thing could get unpleasant, and I'd rather stop it before that happens.

I appreciate you being so good about this.

It's time for an hint. The hint is very helpful, so I suggest you read better the first post before seeing the spoiler. But if you really have no idea how to solve this, then here you go!

Hint:

SPOILER: Click to show

- The first post, has an hidden message inside, find it.
- The hidden message will tell you how to correctly interpretate everything you read on the first post.
- If you interpretate correctly the first post, you should understand where to go.
- If you understand where to go, you should go there and search for an hidden place's name.
- The place's name is the solution.

And no, don't lose time googling for "the solution" or something like that. You will know exactly what to search for when you find it.

Good luck  I can image it is still hard even after the hint, but believe me, it's totaly possible!

That was really thinking out of the box.
A good one!

Well, a bit too overcomplicated IMHO but you could surely go even further in complicating, embedding, encoding and decoding things...

Apr 27, 2015 19:32:48 GMT hhgygy said:

you could surely go even further in complicating, embedding, encoding and decoding things...

Don't tease me 

Congratz btw 

Just in case you misread the tone of this post, ndrqu, it's all meant to be lighthearted. 

I was aware of the hidden message but that's where the problems and contradictions started. You see, that hidden message itself provides its own dilemmas...

SPOILER: Click to show

To those trying to solve the puzzle, this next part gives away the hidden message so don't read any further if you don't want to know it.

SPOILER: Click to show

If everything you say is a lie, then that very statement is a lie. This leaves two options:
1. Everything you say is the truth
2. Some of the things you say are lies.

If it's the first option, then your hidden message is the truth but that contradicts itself. It's a neverending circle.

If it's the second option, then my brain short circuits and here are some of the random thought processes causing that to happen...

• Is "The puzzle starts after this line" a lie and it actually starts before the line?
• Is "You don't have to be a monster to solve it" a lie which means I can never solve it as I do have to be a monster, but I'm not one? (Well, I don't think I'm one. I could be wrong.)
• Is "Everything you need is inside this thread" a lie and everything I need is outside the thread? In that case, the image itself is not part of the puzzle so I don't really know what I'm looking for. Okay, you congratulated those who posted images of the same location but, those congratulations could have been lies, too!
• Is "I wish you good luck" a lie? In that case, that's just mean!   

Apr 28, 2015 3:32:24 GMT seefit said:

Just in case you misread the tone of this post, ndrqu, it's all meant to be lighthearted. 

I was aware of the hidden message but that's where the problems and contradictions started. You see, that hidden message itself provides its own dilemmas...

SPOILER: Click to show

To those trying to solve the puzzle, this next part gives away the hidden message so don't read any further if you don't want to know it.

SPOILER: Click to show

If everything you say is a lie, then that very statement is a lie. This leaves two options:
1. Everything you say is the truth
2. Some of the things you say are lies.

If it's the first option, then your hidden message is the truth but that contradicts itself. It's a neverending circle.

If it's the second option, then my brain short circuits and here are some of the random thought processes causing that to happen...

• Is "The puzzle starts after this line" a lie and it actually starts before the line?
• Is "You don't have to be a monster to solve it" a lie which means I can never solve it as I do have to be a monster, but I'm not one? (Well, I don't think I'm one. I could be wrong.)
• Is "Everything you need is inside this thread" a lie and everything I need is outside the thread? In that case, the image itself is not part of the puzzle so I don't really know what I'm looking for. Okay, you congratulated those who posted images of the same location but, those congratulations could have been lies, too!
• Is "I wish you good luck" a lie? In that case, that's just mean!   

To those who have to solve the puzzle, dont read this spoiler

SPOILER: Click to show

Your objections are true. I have thought your same things, however, it would have been too hard (if not impossible) for me to formulate a logically perfect double-message, especially with "truth and lies" that are well known to easily create a paradox. So I am sorry about that, I did my best

However, consider the part before the line TRUTH and the part after the line a LIE. That's how I ment my puzzle to be.

"Being a monster" is not ment to be literal, connect that sentence with the one next to it, and... you should understand what I want you do to after some research...

And yes, I don't wish you good luck 

Something I can understand please !

Hey sorry for the delay, I was without internet for 2 days.

Here the second hint:

SPOILER: Click to show

As I have said, in the first post there is an hidden message. I think you all found it, but in case you still didn't find it, just highlight everything I have written, even the part before the line.
When you understand what the hidden message is saying, you should be able to read the part after the line in a different way.

The key part of the puzzle that you have to read in the "new way", is this one:

You don't have to be a monster to solve it. Everything you need is inside this thread.


It will require some good ideas from your side and probably a bit of searching, but it does tell you where to go.

When you get there, you need to carefully search for the name of the place, that is the solution.

I can't tell more then this, or it would be too easy! It is still hard, but I think it's fun   good luck!

It has been pointed out to me that my hints are not helpful enough.

I will give now the FINAL hint before I give the solution in a few days.

The FINAL hint is VERY helpful, so it's your choice if you want to follow it or try to solve the puzzle with only the first and second hint.

Here it is:

SPOILER: Click to show

The hidden message is telling you that what I said is a lie, that means, that "everything you need is NOT inside the thread". So, the solution to this puzzle, is NOT inside this thread. Where could I have possibly hid the solution? Well, that must be in one of my past threads somewhere in the forums (yea, I did plan this in advance partially). But in what thread? That's where the "you HAVE to be a monster" comes into play. Go in my profile, and have a look at my past threads. Look at them all, and one of them will ring you a bell. When you see it, you WILL KNOW that it is the correct thread to look in. Search for the name of the location inside that thread, the name of the place is well hidden there, so don't give up, keep searching. When you find it, put it into Google Earth and you will see the tunnel.

thanks for the numerous clues

"my" error has been to believe that "The puzzle starts after this line" was a lie...

The Black Hole :



Oh my...! That was complicate (and I thought my Central island and sculpture puzzle was difficult !). I agree with seefit's comments. Thanks for the 50 hints, ndrqu !

SPOILER: Click to show

So, the solution to this puzzle, is NOT inside this thread. ... Well, that must be in one of my past threads somewhere in the forums

That's an assumption I didn't make. My thoughts were that...

SPOILER: Click to show

...if it's not in this thread, it could be on any other page on the internet!!!  

Good job people. I know it was very hard, not every puzzle of mine will be like that I promise 

All right, I guess I owe you an explaination for this.

Solution:

SPOILER: Click to show

The first thing to do, is to find the hidden message. The hidden message is inside the spaces of the text before the line. In fact, they are not spaces, but white letters. You could easily see it by just highlighting the text with the mouse.
The hidden message says: "everything I say is a lie".

That's why the puzzle didn't really start after the line. It was a lie.
However, it doesn't say that the puzzle doesn't continue after the line, it just doesn't start there.

So let's examine the text after the line. If everything I said is a lie, that means that:

The tunnel is hard to find
You have to be a monster
Everything you need is NOT inside this thread
And I don't wish you good luck! 

If the solution is not inside this thread, that means it is somewhere else. Where could I possibly have hidden it?
Well I didn't put the solution in a random page on the internet, I am not that evil. It is obviously in ANOTHER thread of this forum.
But what thread?

Let's go back at "You have to be a monster".
If you go on the list of my thread, here -> googleearthcommunity.proboards.com/user/90/recent_threads
You can see the thread "The monster eats", and that should have ringed you a bell -> googleearthcommunity.proboards.com/thread/709/monster-eats

The URL of the picture of the first post in that thread, contains the name of the location of the tunnel, that is Dodoni, Greece.